|Thierry Carrez||Apr 27, 2012 3:04 am|
|Daniel P. Berrange||Apr 27, 2012 3:46 am|
|Jim Meyering||Apr 27, 2012 4:11 am|
|Monty Taylor||Apr 27, 2012 5:41 am|
|Monty Taylor||Apr 27, 2012 5:46 am|
|Duncan McGreggor||Apr 27, 2012 6:44 am|
|Monty Taylor||Apr 27, 2012 8:26 am|
|Duncan McGreggor||Apr 27, 2012 8:31 am|
|Stefano Maffulli||Apr 27, 2012 9:33 am|
|Everett Toews||Apr 27, 2012 12:52 pm|
|Matt Joyce||Apr 27, 2012 2:33 pm|
|Duncan McGreggor||Apr 27, 2012 2:42 pm|
|Stefano Maffulli||Apr 27, 2012 5:59 pm|
|Jim Meyering||Apr 28, 2012 2:45 pm|
|Everett Toews||Apr 30, 2012 9:12 am|
|Stefano Maffulli||Apr 30, 2012 10:08 am|
|Everett Toews||Apr 30, 2012 11:00 am|
|Duncan McGreggor||Apr 30, 2012 11:06 am|
|Matt Ray||Apr 30, 2012 11:37 am|
|Jan van Eldik||May 1, 2012 1:13 pm|
|Duncan McGreggor||May 11, 2012 1:12 pm|
|Duncan McGreggor||May 11, 2012 1:20 pm|
|Duncan McGreggor||May 17, 2012 8:40 am|
|Duncan McGreggor||May 17, 2012 8:46 am|
|Subject:||Re: [Openstack] Mailing-list split|
|From:||Duncan McGreggor (dun...@dreamhost.com)|
|Date:||May 11, 2012 1:12:31 pm|
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Duncan McGreggor <dun...@dreamhost.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote:
On 04/27/2012 05:04 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
To avoid Launchpad list slowness, we would run the new openstack-dev list off lists.openstack.org. Given the potential hassle of dealing with spam and delivery issues on mission-critical MLs, we are looking into the possibility of outsourcing the maintenance of lists.openstack.org to a group with established expertise running mailman instances. Please let us know ASAP if you could offer such services. We are not married to mailman either -- if an alternative service offers good performance and better integration (like OpenID-based subscription to integrate with our SSO), we would definitely consider it.
Just to be clear - I definitely think that mailing lists are an important part of dev infrastructure and would love for this to be a fully integrated part of all of the rest of our tools. However, the current set of active infrastructure team members have huge todo lists at the moment. So the biggest home run from my perspective would be if someone out there had time or resources and wanted to join us on the infra team to manage this on our existing resources (turns out we have plenty of servers for running this, and even a decent amount of expertise, just missing manpower). The existing team would be more than happy to be involved, and it would help avoid get-hit-by-a-truck issues. We're a pretty friendly bunch, I promise.
Any takers? Anybody want to pony up somebody with some bandwidth to admin a mailman? Respond back here or just find us in #openstack-infra and we'll get you plugged in and stuff.
Count me in, Monty.
I've been managing mailman lists for about 12 years now (and, incidentally, Barry and I are bruthas from anutha mutha), so I'd be quite comfortable handling those responsibilities. I can couple it with the python.org SIG mail list that I manage, so there'd be zero context switching.
Hey folks, quick update for ya...
Here are some Etherpads for this effort: * http://etherpad.openstack.org/openstack-dev-ml-prefixes * http://etherpad.openstack.org/lists-changes * http://etherpad.openstack.org/mailmain-install-and-notes * http://etherpad.openstack.org/mailmain-migration-notes
Mailman is installed, with the site-wide "mailman" list set up.
James Blair has been working on the Exim set up, and I'll be following up on his changes when I get some time this weekend.
It would be great to migrate our old mail list data: * from the old host to the new one * from LP archives (don't know if that's possible)
Some of us know folks who maintain launchpad (and mailman, for that matter), so we'll be reaching out to folks at Canonical to see what we can do here.
James Blair also has a good plan for DNS, setting a hostname set up for testing, and then rolling over once we're ready to go live.
ttx had some good input on making sure the list description had the necessary info about tagging subjects in list emails. Stef had some ideas about customizing the look and feel. That's all in the notes linked above.
There have been other conversations in various places, and I'll gather those up and send out another email.